aw I kind of liked the old building's architecture. This looks like a facade for Chipotle. I guess they wanted to stand out against the building with Sephora.
That old, artdeco style was too busy and just didn't look good. The new, modern look is more inviting, open and minimal. I wonder what will be the fate of Bareburger and Twist and Smash'd.
The facade is definitely not finished yet. All of the other Shake Shacks in the city I've been to (including the new Queens Center mall location) have a similar exterior design. Once the FH location is done, the exterior will be a great addition to Austin Street--it will be sleek, modern and upscale. As for other burger places, I think Bareburger will do fine because it is a very different type of burger place--with a great variety of meats and its focus on organic and natural ingredients.
Get ready for more crowds, litter, noise, pollution, and traffic congestion on the Austin St and 71st Ave corridor. Wouldn't it be nice if these big businesses got together and did something to beautify the streetscape?
The property owners up there have been rolling in the dough for the last 25 years but are too cheap to throw a few bucks toward beautification. Did you know that some of the banks on 71 Av are paying nearly $100k a month for rent???!!!
I can't understand anyone who lives in the city complaining about crowds, noise and traffic congestion. These are part of living in the city and if you are unhappy being around these things, then you might be better off living in the suburbs or in the country. As for litter and pollution, a certain amount of these are expected in the city, but the city also has laws and regulations about these things that keeps them at a reasonable level. Also, the Shake Shack will be a great addition to Austin Street and one of the reasons for this is the increased foot traffic that Shake Shack will bring to the neighborhood. While some people only see this as a negative and complain about "crowds and noise", there are also a lot of positives for FH that will come from increased foot traffic, including the likelihood that this increased foot traffic will attract other upscale, high-quality stores and restaurants to the neighborhood.
And I can't understand people who think they don't have to consider anyone else, ever. Maybe the noisy people need to move to the suburbs or the country, where their rude, inconsiderate behavior won't inconvenience hundreds or thousands of people at once. If you can't be a good neighbor--clean, quiet, and considerate--then it's YOU who are not cut out to live in a densely populated area. There's a social contract that comes with living in a city, where your neighbors are always within hearing distance. Just because a place has a lot of people doesn't mean common courtesy goes out the window. Can't be considerate? Fine. Move somewhere less densely populated. Don't make your problem my problem.
Laurie's comment is a prime example of someone responding to something that I never said. I never said that people in the city should not be good and considerate neighbors. The noise that I referred to as being part of living in the city is the noise outside on the sidewalks along Austin Street (remember, Anonymous was complaining that Shake Shack was going to bring more noise and crowds?), not the noise people make inside apartment buildings. These are two totally different things. Some level of noise is to be expected on sidewalks along a commercial business district in the city, like Austin Street. As I said before, if you are unhappy being around crowds, noise (outside noise in a commercial business district) and traffic congestion, then you might be better off living in the suburbs or in the country.
And the additional "foot traffic" brought on by Shake Shack may increase that foot traffic into our mom and pop boutiques/businesses as well. Would be nice to have that added business to keep those businesses open and thriving! They make our community and Austin Street very quaint and inviting.
Yes, exactly. It's good to see there are some others here who see the benefits that Shake Shack will bring to the neighborhood. Rather than trying to make this great addition to our neighborhood into a negative thing, it's good to see there are others who recognize what a positive thing Shake Shack will be for Forest Hills.
aw I kind of liked the old building's architecture. This looks like a facade for Chipotle. I guess they wanted to stand out against the building with Sephora.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's finished yet. Last I heard it's supposed to open in April some time.
DeleteWhat I'm trying to say is it could still change a lot in appearance, we'll have to see...
DeleteOh I took another looks you are right. I just personally like older architecture but whatever the end result will be, will be.
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ReplyDeletewonderful addition to the neighborhood. The Shake Shack facade looks much better than Strawberry.
DeleteThat old, artdeco style was too busy and just didn't look good. The new, modern look is more inviting, open and minimal. I wonder what will be the fate of Bareburger and Twist and Smash'd.
ReplyDeleteThe facade is definitely not finished yet. All of the other Shake Shacks in the city I've been to (including the new Queens Center mall location) have a similar exterior design. Once the FH location is done, the exterior will be a great addition to Austin Street--it will be sleek, modern and upscale.
ReplyDeleteAs for other burger places, I think Bareburger will do fine because it is a very different type of burger place--with a great variety of meats and its focus on organic and natural ingredients.
Get ready for more crowds, litter, noise, pollution, and traffic congestion on the Austin St and 71st Ave corridor. Wouldn't it be nice if these big businesses got together and did something to beautify the streetscape?
ReplyDeleteThe property owners up there have been rolling in the dough for the last 25 years but are too cheap to throw a few bucks toward beautification. Did you know that some of the banks on 71 Av are paying nearly $100k a month for rent???!!!
DeleteThat's exactly how much the landlord for Barnes and Noble wanted to raise their rent up to.
DeleteI can't understand anyone who lives in the city complaining about crowds, noise and traffic congestion. These are part of living in the city and if you are unhappy being around these things, then you might be better off living in the suburbs or in the country. As for litter and pollution, a certain amount of these are expected in the city, but the city also has laws and regulations about these things that keeps them at a reasonable level.
DeleteAlso, the Shake Shack will be a great addition to Austin Street and one of the reasons for this is the increased foot traffic that Shake Shack will bring to the neighborhood. While some people only see this as a negative and complain about "crowds and noise", there are also a lot of positives for FH that will come from increased foot traffic, including the likelihood that this increased foot traffic will attract other upscale, high-quality stores and restaurants to the neighborhood.
And I can't understand people who think they don't have to consider anyone else, ever. Maybe the noisy people need to move to the suburbs or the country, where their rude, inconsiderate behavior won't inconvenience hundreds or thousands of people at once. If you can't be a good neighbor--clean, quiet, and considerate--then it's YOU who are not cut out to live in a densely populated area. There's a social contract that comes with living in a city, where your neighbors are always within hearing distance. Just because a place has a lot of people doesn't mean common courtesy goes out the window. Can't be considerate? Fine. Move somewhere less densely populated. Don't make your problem my problem.
DeleteLaurie's comment is a prime example of someone responding to something that I never said. I never said that people in the city should not be good and considerate neighbors. The noise that I referred to as being part of living in the city is the noise outside on the sidewalks along Austin Street (remember, Anonymous was complaining that Shake Shack was going to bring more noise and crowds?), not the noise people make inside apartment buildings. These are two totally different things. Some level of noise is to be expected on sidewalks along a commercial business district in the city, like Austin Street. As I said before, if you are unhappy being around crowds, noise (outside noise in a commercial business district) and traffic congestion, then you might be better off living in the suburbs or in the country.
DeleteAbsolutely agreed with FHGuy. This will be great for the neighborhood
Delete"Other upscale"?
ReplyDeleteAnd the additional "foot traffic" brought on by Shake Shack may increase that foot traffic into our mom and pop boutiques/businesses as well. Would be nice to have that added business to keep those businesses open and thriving! They make our community and Austin Street very quaint and inviting.
ReplyDeleteYes, exactly. It's good to see there are some others here who see the benefits that Shake Shack will bring to the neighborhood. Rather than trying to make this great addition to our neighborhood into a negative thing, it's good to see there are others who recognize what a positive thing Shake Shack will be for Forest Hills.
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